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I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 15:46:41 GMT -5 khj, stampie78, and 1 more like this

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Post by youpiao on Jan 1, 2022 15:46:41 GMT -5

Has anyone ever noticed that the Special Delivery stamp
USA, Scott Nr E20 (1954)
is a stamp-on-stamp topical, and that the stamp depicted on the stamp is the stamp itself?

Next question: The regular stamp shown along with the depicted SD stamp doesn't appear to be based on an actual US stamp. Or have I just overlooked it?

Also, does anyone know of any other stamp-on-stamp stamps that depicts itself? (Besides USA E21, which is the same stamp only different.)

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Jan 1, 2022 15:46:41 GMT -5 youpiao said:

The regular stamp shown along with the depicted SD stamp doesn't appear to be based on an actual US stamp. Or have I just overlooked it?

The rightmost stamp on the envelope is the 3c Statue of Liberty (inscribed with "IN GOD WE TRUST" in an arc) definitive from the Liberty Series of 1954.

The special delivery stamp had to be affixed in addition to the regular delivery postage -- the rate then being 3c.

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khj That was the closest match I came up with, but my mind kept seeing it as Liberty over a map background. The more I look at it while crossing my eyes and screwing my face clockwise 90 degrees, the more it looks like the stamp you said. lol

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Jan 1, 2022 15:46:41 GMT -5 youpiao said:

Also, does anyone know of any other stamp-on-stamp stamps that depicts itself? (Besides USA E21, which is the same stamp only different.)

I would say there are at least a dozen WW examples. Obviously, I can't remember them all. But I'll try to post them as they come to mind. First one that comes to mind is a Nepal issue, should be late 20th century.

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I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 17:09:01 GMT -5 youpiao likes this

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Jan 1, 2022 17:07:00 GMT -5 youpiao said:

khj That was the closest match I came up with, but my mind kept seeing it as Liberty over a map background. The more I look at it while crossing my eyes and screwing my face clockwise 90 degrees, the more it looks like the stamp you said. lol

No wonder I herniated my neck!

What cemented it for me was being able to see right part of the arc of the text "IN GOD WE TRUST".

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I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 17:11:24 GMT -5

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Jan 1, 2022 17:07:27 GMT -5 khj said:

Jan 1, 2022 15:46:41 GMT -5 youpiao said:

Also, does anyone know of any other stamp-on-stamp stamps that depicts itself? (Besides USA E21, which is the same stamp only different.)

Obviously, I can't remember them all.

Obviously.

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khj Administrator Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 9,892 Location (Country): USA Member is Online	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 17:13:24 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by khj on Jan 1, 2022 17:13:24 GMT -5 Scott Nepal 396(27Dec1981). I liked this one because it had the "infinite" stamp within a stamp design. I figure you will be pilfering pics for a future TTS video, so I'll let you pilfer/post the pics.

kacyds Administrator Stamp Bears Supporter Did you hear the joke about the unstamped letter? You wouldn't get it. Posts: 16,135 Location (Country): United States Member is Online	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 17:14:14 GMT -5 khj, coastwatcher, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by kacyds on Jan 1, 2022 17:14:14 GMT -5 Look at the address on the cover... "1954 Liberty St"

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I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 17:29:43 GMT -5

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OK, I'm getting old. I was mistaken about some of the stamps that I thought showed the exact same stamp. Also, some of the S/S that I was thinking about didn't actually show the entire stamp but a design element. Oh well.

Since I collect selvage, this counts:
Hungary 1261a(25Sep1959), the attached label serves as the exhibition ticket and shows the attached stamp in the ticket design.

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I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 17:49:26 GMT -5

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Post by khj on Jan 1, 2022 17:49:26 GMT -5

OK, I was able to locate a couple others that are "rigorously correct".

Austria B278(10Mar1952)
Benin 570(18Jun1984)

This is an example of what I meant by not quite the same stamp: France 3039(27Jun2004)

I got a deadline that I missed already. I'll work on the list later...

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khj Administrator Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 9,892 Location (Country): USA Member is Online	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 18:15:23 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by khj on Jan 1, 2022 18:15:23 GMT -5 Felt the need to do a few more, since I already missed my deadline. Jersey 101(7Jun1974) -- the stamp depicts a first day cover for the same stamp! Italy 964-967(1967-1968)

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I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 21:52:39 GMT -5

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Post by khj on Jan 1, 2022 21:52:39 GMT -5

I thought there was one UN stamp, but I guess I was mistaken. Those 8 are all I can recall at this point, for complete replication of same stamp. The other couple I listed are "borderline". Along with the E20, that makes 9 stamps. Still short of the "at least a dozen" I stated earlier. But since I haven't seen most stamps, and couldn't possibly remember them all, I'm still fairly confident the statement is accurate.

youpiao Stamp Bears Posting Guru Posts: 3,603 Location (Country): USA	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 22:02:57 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by youpiao on Jan 1, 2022 22:02:57 GMT -5 Maybe you're thinking of UN-Vienna 63? It's not a stamp on stamp but is a stamp engraved by Slania, showing Slania engraving a stamp.
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I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 1, 2022 22:22:20 GMT -5

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Jan 1, 2022 22:02:57 GMT -5 youpiao said:

Maybe you're thinking of UN-Vienna 63? It's not a stamp on stamp but is a stamp engraved by Slania, showing Slania engraving a stamp.

That stamp did come to mind, and I did go check to see if it might have shown him engraving the same stamp, but you can't even see what he's engraving.

It was another stamp, but the ones I checked didn't qualify. So I will just chalk it up to wrong memory.

youpiao Stamp Bears Posting Guru Posts: 3,603 Location (Country): USA	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 2, 2022 11:51:31 GMT -5 kacyds, khj, and 3 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by youpiao on Jan 2, 2022 11:51:31 GMT -5 Not a completely detailed depiction, but I think obviously intended to be that stamp.
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youpiao Stamp Bears Posting Guru Posts: 3,603 Location (Country): USA	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 3, 2022 0:19:04 GMT -5 via mobile kacyds, darkormex, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by youpiao on Jan 3, 2022 0:19:04 GMT -5 Check out the gif Graham Beck created from the Special Delivery stamp
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youpiao Stamp Bears Posting Guru Posts: 3,603 Location (Country): USA	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 3, 2022 18:10:48 GMT -5 via mobile kacyds, coastwatcher, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by youpiao on Jan 3, 2022 18:10:48 GMT -5 An infinity stamp from Netherlands, Scott Nr 587 (1979)
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youpiao Stamp Bears Posting Guru Posts: 3,603 Location (Country): USA	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 3, 2022 20:47:30 GMT -5 via mobile kacyds likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by youpiao on Jan 3, 2022 20:47:30 GMT -5 The Droste Effect en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droste_effect
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youpiao Stamp Bears Posting Guru Posts: 3,603 Location (Country): USA	I Meta-Stamp On a Stamp Jan 3, 2022 20:55:32 GMT -5 via mobile kacyds, coastwatcher, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by youpiao on Jan 3, 2022 20:55:32 GMT -5 Here is a “close, but no cigar” example, as only Einstein’s image is recursive (I just learned that word ) and not the stamp itself. Belgium, Scott Nr 1781j (2001)
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