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Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 10:16:05 GMT -5 MikeC99, Gordon Lee, and 1 more like this

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2016 Precancel saga continues ... I've got a handle on sorting and am starting to mount Bureau precancels. Working on major cities first ... New York, Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City, St. Louis, Los Angeles and then will work on specific states Missouri & Michigan. Unless I get sidetracked ;-)

Anyway, as I was pulling New York stamps to mount I found this interesting pair on cover. Knowing what I now know ... I wonder if this would be considered a philatelic use of these stamps.

"What should I do? I think the best thing is to order a stamp with my face on it." - Charles, Emperor of Austria 1882-1922 on learning of his accession to the throne.

clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 10:23:20 GMT -5 MikeC99, khj, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jun 14, 2016 10:23:20 GMT -5 and like all stamps, sometimes it's hard to see what you've got ... pretty sure it's Chicago with a Monkey Wards Apr 63 overprint ...
	"What should I do? I think the best thing is to order a stamp with my face on it." - Charles, Emperor of Austria 1882-1922 on learning of his accession to the throne.

clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 12:08:51 GMT -5 kacyds, Philatarium, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jun 14, 2016 12:08:51 GMT -5 mounted New York NY Bureaus w/ homemade pages -- first pass through my accumulations
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clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 12:10:09 GMT -5 kacyds and khj like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jun 14, 2016 12:10:09 GMT -5 page 2
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clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 12:14:36 GMT -5 kacyds and khj like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jun 14, 2016 12:14:36 GMT -5 surprisingly few of the Prexies .... have much better coverage on other cities of this issue. Not hard to come by though.
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Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 12:26:27 GMT -5

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Jun 14, 2016 10:16:05 GMT -5 clif said:

Anyway, as I was pulling New York stamps to mount I found this interesting pair on cover. Knowing what I now know ... I wonder if this would be considered a philatelic use of these stamps.

Im not sure what you mean by 'a philatelic use'. Could you please clarify? Are you just surprised that a firm should have different precancels/stamp issues issues on the same cover?

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Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 13:58:46 GMT -5

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Jun 14, 2016 12:26:27 GMT -5 rayb said:

Jun 14, 2016 10:16:05 GMT -5 clif said:

Anyway, as I was pulling New York stamps to mount I found this interesting pair on cover. Knowing what I now know ... I wonder if this would be considered a philatelic use of these stamps.

Im not sure what you mean by 'a philatelic use'. Could you please clarify? Are you just surprised that a firm should have different precancels/stamp issues issues on the same cover?

seems unlikely to me that if two 1-cent stamps were needed that whoever was slapping them on would use up the LAST sheet or coil stamp ... it's possible I suppose. I just thought it odd to see them juxtaposed like that. Will probably soak and mount them anyway so it's all moot. ;-)

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Clif's Pre-Cancels Jun 14, 2016 14:32:01 GMT -5 Philatarium and JerryB like this

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Post by rayb on Jun 14, 2016 14:32:01 GMT -5

My first thought is that if it had been done to please a stamp collector, they might be expected to have kept the whole cover.

My second thought is that these things were often 'slapped on' well in advance of receiving the material. If there was then a change in rate, or the material was heavier than expected, an upgrade with a different issue is not unlikely; but since the rest of the cover is long gone we'll probably never know.

But PLEASE don't soak it. Write it up and preserve it. One day it could be your clinching piece of evidence for a theory. Destroying stamps is one thing: there's an awful lot of them. But destroying postal history is a crime against philately!

clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 17, 2016 6:38:31 GMT -5 kacyds, darkormex, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jul 17, 2016 6:38:31 GMT -5 my Chicago Bureau pages ... page 1
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clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 17, 2016 6:39:29 GMT -5 kacyds, darkormex, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jul 17, 2016 6:39:29 GMT -5 page 2
	"What should I do? I think the best thing is to order a stamp with my face on it." - Charles, Emperor of Austria 1882-1922 on learning of his accession to the throne.

clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 17, 2016 6:41:07 GMT -5 kacyds, darkormex, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jul 17, 2016 6:41:07 GMT -5 page 3 the 'Prexies'
	"What should I do? I think the best thing is to order a stamp with my face on it." - Charles, Emperor of Austria 1882-1922 on learning of his accession to the throne.

clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 17, 2016 6:42:17 GMT -5 kacyds, darkormex, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jul 17, 2016 6:42:17 GMT -5 page 4
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clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 17, 2016 6:44:46 GMT -5 kacyds, darkormex, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jul 17, 2016 6:44:46 GMT -5 page 5
	"What should I do? I think the best thing is to order a stamp with my face on it." - Charles, Emperor of Austria 1882-1922 on learning of his accession to the throne.

clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 17, 2016 6:46:50 GMT -5 MikeC99, kacyds, and 4 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jul 17, 2016 6:46:50 GMT -5 some closeups ...
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Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 17, 2016 14:38:00 GMT -5

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Post by tony on Jul 17, 2016 14:38:00 GMT -5

Hi Clif

Some nice pages. looking at them reminded me I have a collection of Bureau precancels on vario pages which I have not looked at for a while, must take a look. I belive there are over 10,000 varieties, then there is the Town and Type Catalogue which is double in size !!

Do you have the Precancel Stamp Society Catalouge ?

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Philatarium Linking Member Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 927 Location (Country): Los Angeles area	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 18, 2016 19:55:05 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Philatarium on Jul 18, 2016 19:55:05 GMT -5 clif, did you make these pages? If so, that's a beautiful choice of title font (the serif font)! Do you know what it is?

clif Master Stamp Bear Stamp Bears Supporter Posts: 1,222 Location (Country): USA	Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 20, 2016 6:15:45 GMT -5 Philatarium likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clif on Jul 20, 2016 6:15:45 GMT -5 Jul 18, 2016 19:55:05 GMT -5 Philatarium said: clif , did you make these pages? If so, that's a beautiful choice of title font (the serif font)! Do you know what it is? yes I did and thanks ... I used 16-pt Constantia font
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Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 20, 2016 6:17:35 GMT -5 Philatarium likes this

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Jul 17, 2016 14:38:00 GMT -5 tony said:

Hi Clif

Some nice pages. looking at them reminded me I have a collection of Bureau precancels on vario pages which I have not looked at for a while, must take a look. I belive there are over 10,000 varieties, then there is the Town and Type Catalogue which is double in size !!

Do you have the Precancel Stamp Society Catalouge ?

thanks! I do have the PSS Bureau catalog which I used to make the pages. Since bureaus are so much easier and more common I thought to start with those and will work my way up the T&T.

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Clif's Pre-Cancels Jul 20, 2016 13:18:46 GMT -5

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Jul 20, 2016 6:15:45 GMT -5 clif said:

Jul 18, 2016 19:55:05 GMT -5 Philatarium said:

clif , did you make these pages? If so, that's a beautiful choice of title font (the serif font)! Do you know what it is?

yes I did and thanks ... I used 16-pt Constantia font

Thanks very much for the helpful reply, Clif!

And a beautiful font choice!

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